The commentator rand
posts on 2/2/2006 2:26:03 AM
if you'll remember, in the original series, the galactica was training new warriors. in the man with nine lives episode, there is a recruiting ad on the fleet network before starbuck is interviewed as warrior of the week. the gnomemen pursuing chameleon come aboard the galalactica as recruits.
take care.
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The commentator Bang Bang
posts on 2/2/2006 1:49:12 AM
Does anyone know if the Galactica has inititated a military draft for the eligible members of the colonial fleet? Besides viper pilots and marines, I'm sure the Galactica could use launch and landing personnel, people in fire control, and security personnel aboard the civilian ships. After all, there's only 50,000 people left; you need everyone available to fight back against the Cylons. There was one episode where Starbuck revealed that she passed Zac, even though he wasn't qualified, and she was training volunteers who had previous flight experience--uh, wouldn't they be looking for ANYONE who wanted to be a pilot, even if they had no flight experience?? Wouldn't there be a training program in place for prospective pilots? And marines and ground troops? Or is Ron Moore so against a military draft that it's affecting his storytelling? This battlestar should have youg recruits, pilots and marines, left and right, ready to defend the fleet. But you don't hear of that. Cindy Sheehan continually cries to the media about her son being killed in Iraq, which is tragic enough, but the young man made the decision for himself; he wasn't drafed or coerced into joining the military. No one held a gun to the brave man's head and made him enlist. He made the ultimate sacrifice to his country, and I can understand that his mother is heartbroken. But...now she's using her brave son's death to run for the Senate. God Help Us if she would get elected, because what would happen if we would be attacked then? Shoot spitballs? I'm bringing this up because Ron Moore says he displays current events on his new show. If Sheehan's character is on the Galactica, there wouldn't be any pilots or soldiers to defend the fleet; they would simply surrender, walking out of their ships with their hands up in the air like the French. Which way will Ron Moore lean? Will Admiral Adama run the fleet? Or some character like Cindy Sheehan? If it's someone like Sheehan, the answer will be obvious. Fleet destroyed, end of story. Which would probably be best: maybe we can back to a DVD continuation of the REAL Galactica.
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The commentator rand
posts on 1/28/2006 12:19:54 AM
believe it or not, i actually have something good to say about tonight's episode. NO STARBI-TCH! it was wonderful not having to look at ms. sackoff's snide expressions for an entire 43 minutes. tonight, the new galactica teaches us that it is all right to deal with the criminal element if they serve a useful purpose. we also get to see lee with a prostituite who does her business with her little girl in the next room. mommie, why do you and lee keep making all those funny noises in the bedroom? then, he shows us the proper way to commit cold blooded murder by shooting someone in the head like a common thug. but oh yea, i forgot, he is a thug. and yes, the pegasus was in this episode, of course only to serve as the scene for another murder. richard hatch was also in this episode, apparently, he has ties to the black market, big surprise, huh? all in all, this episode is at least as enjoyable as squeezing puss from an infected sore. on a scale of one to ten, this one gets a minus three. and remember, only on the sci-fi channel can you get such quality sewage pumped into your living room twenty four hours a day. take care.
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The commentator Bang Bang
posts on 1/27/2006 6:30:44 AM
It's good to hear that we'll get to see some of the Battlestar Pegasus in Friday's episode. After the return of this warship, and all the trouble that Cain gave Adama, it seemed like Ron Moore forgot all about it in the last episode. I'm curious to see where Ron Moore takes this storyline. Is the Battlestar Galactica universe big enough for two battlestars? Probably, the ship will ultimately end up being destroyed by the Cylons; after all, the other battlestars were crippled in the opening attack by the Cylon computer virus. (The Galactica was the exception, since it was an older, obsolete model--and I just wonder if the Cylons will try this maneuver again, if they haven't already.) But if the Pegasus is destined for destruction, I hope they actually show it this time. In the mini-series, we didn't get to see any of the destruction of the battlestar fleet; we heard Adama talk about it to his crew, but that was all. I still like how the original Galactica showed the destruction of the battlestar Atlantia, with President Adar holding on for dear life to the bridge's railings while all the oxygen is rushing out out due to the hull being compromised. Personally, I hope the Pegasus hangs around for awhile because there's probably more potential stories there, but two battlestars may be too much for Ron Moore to handle.
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The commentator rand
posts on 1/21/2006 2:14:33 AM
hate to burst your bubble, mell baby, but there is a very strong rumor universal is digging out the original series sets for a direct to dvd movie, which is every bit as prestigious as a series on a two bit cable channel. two million viewers a week. wow! the new show wouldn't last a month on a real network and against real competition. and i'll quit grumbling about galactica regurgitated when hades freezes over. take care.
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Me!!
posts on 1/20/2006 5:47:38 PM
Yes, some of you don't like the new show. We get it. I have a question though, why in the world spend so much effort whining and crying like a baby about it? There are more shows on TV that I can't stand than I can count, probably true for a lot of people. Know what we do? We don't watch them! Accept that the old BSG is gone (and good riddance), move on, and watch something you do like.
Yeesh.
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The commentator rand
posts on 1/19/2006 2:04:44 AM
mr. moore is obviously a very disturbed individual. as bang said, he has no appreciation for the wonders of the universe, let alone the magic of the parent -child and man- woman, or any loving relationships. love of any kind is what this show is sorely lacking. (i do not equate the physical act of sex to love.) and there has never been a real event in the history of mankind where love and faith didn't give someone the strength and will power to endure. love survived even among the horrors of the nazi concentration camps, so why not an imaginary television program? if i were producing a sci-fi series, besides making my characters civilized human beings, i would use the countless and beautiful images the hubble space telescope has created in my backgrounds rather than just starless, black space. there would be aliens of every shape and size, even if i had to resort to cgi to create them. i would also include more than just a few chords of music or drum beats. music is a very important part of any show. i still get chills when i see the real galactica leading the fleet while stu phillips' beautiful music is playing. take care.
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The commentator Bang Bang
posts on 1/18/2006 2:18:54 AM
In the original Battlestar Galactica episode "The Long Patrol", Lorne Greene's Commander Adama anxiously paces the bridge. He mutters, "I'm as nervous as a cadet on his first mission!!" (Or, something to that effect.) And, it has nothing to do with the Cylons; Adama is apprehensive as the Galactica and the fleet clears an asteroid dust field into a brand new star system. Everyone in the fleet, even battle-hardened veterans like Colonel Tigh and Captain Apollo, are completely mystified and awestruck by the new solar system they are passing through. (Only young Boxey fails to appreciate the entry into a new solar system. He tells Muffet, "It's only a bunch of stars!") It's this sense of wonderment that is sorely lacking in the new Galactica. You would think, after all these years on the Sci-Fi Channel, that Ron Moore would allow the Colonials to "take in" and look on in amazement at the new star systems the fleet is passing through. After all, when one goes to the Grand Canyon, or Empire State Building, or the Great Smokey Mountains, there is usually a period of appreciation of nature's beauty. But there is no beauty in Ron Moore's universe. If it doesn't involve rape, sex, hating your family and fellow soldiers, and plotting behind each others' backs, then it doesn't make the airwaves.
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The commentator rand
posts on 1/18/2006 1:54:42 AM
in the series, i always thought all the humans left behind after the exodus were killed. in the later original novels some had been spared and were being used as slave labor. as for the planets themselves, i always thought along the same lines hatch did in his books, that the cylons mined them for their mineral wealth until they were little more than hollow shells, unable to support life, but perfect for cylon cities. take care.
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The commentator Bang Bang
posts on 1/17/2006 1:23:29 AM
After finally getting my heart to calm down after watching the Steelers & Indianapolis game Sunday, I got around to watching the death of Admiral Cain Monday night. At least Adama wasn't forced into giving the go-ahead for the assassination; the Cylon took care of that matter. And who can blame Number Six, or Eight, or whatever number she is? Everything the Cylons do on this show seems to be justified, because the humans are worse than the enemy. And Cain did appear to be much too young to hold the post of Admiral; I'm surprised Ron Moore didn't show her past, with Cain rising rapidly up in rank thanks to some "closed-door negotiations" with other fleet commanders. Actually, one thing I do like about the new show is how they showed "Cylon-occupied Caprica" the last few seasons, with deserted cities, radioactive rain, and guerilla fighters resisting the Cylon invasion. When I watched the original show, I used to wonder what was happening on the devastated home planets while the Galactica was leading the survivors across space. Maybe if there had been a second season, this idea could have been explored. The original show had a lot of promise and potential, and it's a shame it didn't get a chance to realize more of that potential with a second year on the air.
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The commentator rand
posts on 1/16/2006 10:04:53 PM
bang, thanks. i'm actually blushing. but physically, i never would have survived the first day of military basic training. those guys, and girls now, are tough. and i understood what you meant about each cain. i just feel forbes was a poor choice. if they wanted to make it more believable to me they should have used an actor olmos' age, if not older. and as for the new cain's manner of death, it was more of an execution or murder than dying in battle while taking out as many of the enemy as possible, which is how i've always imagined lloyd bridges' cain would. the new cain was heartless, machine like, almost vulcan like. even when she smiled it looked like she was acting. bridges' cain was a passionate man. once more thank you from the bottom of my heart for the compliments. I ain't used to them. the majority of what i believe i learned from three shows, the andy griffith show, bonanza and the original galactica. all i've learned from the new one is how to be deceptive, torture people without leaving a mark, and probably before it's over, how to sod-mize someone with a broom handle. take care.
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The commentator Bang Bang
posts on 1/16/2006 1:58:24 AM
Rand, you don't need to ever apologize for anything on this site. You've offered valuable input and amazing information over the past few months. And, don't ever say that you didn't get into the military because you "weren't quite man enough." You seem to be a person who believes in morals, family values, high standards, and hope--the kind of hope where one believes that good will ultimately triumph over evil. As far as I'm concerned, the Colonial Fleet--not to mention the human race here on Earth--would do well to have more people like you around. Call me old fashioned if you like, but hope is the one thing that humanity has always clung to, to better itself. The hope of a better tomorrow, the hope that good will defeat evil. For, without hope, all is lost. And it seems that all hope is lost aboard the new Galactica. By the way Rand, I did not mean to lump the new Admiral Cain in with Lloyd Bridge's Commander Cain from the original series. I'm sorry that I worded my last message in such a poor way, for Commander Cain purposely took on three Cylon base ships to protect the fleet. But, I guess Forbes' Admiral Cain also died a heroic death (NOT)!!
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Johnny
posts on 1/16/2006 1:53:28 AM
What? Do you think they put a gun to his head and forced him to act in this series? For an actor, this is steady good paying work.
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JT
posts on 1/16/2006 1:31:36 AM
They should rename this "bimbo-star" galactica.
They messed up an icon from the original series. The writers, directors and so on shopuld have picked up and continued from the original series story line instead of redoing it into a horrible mess with second rate actors, except for Olmos, I can't believe he agreed to do this series. He mas made many good movies but his star is tarnished with this series.
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The commentator rand
posts on 1/16/2006 12:48:39 AM
well, they do have two battlestars now, if you're referring to the new series. but i have to disagree about the two cains. yes, the original cain was what they call a warhawk, ready to go into battle at the drop of the hat. but he would never have killed the crews of civilian ships to harvest their resources. he would have fought to the death to protect them. forbes' cain was too cold, she lacked the passion and belief that bridges' cain did that he was doing the best thing for the human race. and not meaning to argue, like anyone's gonna believe that, but the new adama seems every bit as warlike as the new cain. he did say in the first part of the pegasus storyline that he was in favor of anything that would hurt the cylons. also, i wish i was as well versed in military history as some of you guys, so please forgive me if i make any mistakes. take care.
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The commentator Squid
posts on 1/15/2006 5:37:06 PM
Good question. And you're definatley right two battlestars would be better than one. In the last epsisode that was the biggiest a$% whippin they've given the cylons. We'll just have to see how the two battlestars get along now.
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The commentator Bang Bang
posts on 1/15/2006 6:27:12 AM
Squid, I regret that I never served in the military (my two brothers did), and from talking to them, as well as reading lots of World War Two literature, I understand that there's a lot of personality differences in the upper command structure of the armed forces. General MacArthur certainly comes to mind, who wanted to bomb China and use atomic weapons in Korea in clear disrespect of President Truman and the Joint Chief of Staff's strategy, as does the excellent General Manstein of the German Army in WWII, who favored a tactical retreat when called for--especially if it would "set up" the enemy for a devastating counter-offensive. In both versions of Galactica, Cain is obviously the hot-headed, let's-go-get-'em type, although Admiral Cain in the new series is way too dictatorial, self-righteous and downright menacing for my taste. But--if Admiral Cain was not such a tyrannical commander--the Colonial Fleet would be well served by having two such different battlestar commanders protecting them. And I'm also referring to the original series here, too. Think about it: whenever a Cylon threat would be identified, I'm sure that Cain (in both versions) would be eager to confront the attack head-on; the Galactica could remain behind--temporarily, at least--to protect the fleet until they retreated to a pre-determined gathering point. In this situation, I think that two opposing command (and tactical) views would be a benefit for the fleet, because both Adamas were always concerned for the well-being of the civilian ships first before all else, while both Cains felt more at ease attacking the Cylons head-on and blowing them to bits. In the original Galactica's "Living Legend" two-part episode, Cain takes on three Cylon base ships at the end, and while his final fate is in doubt, this spares the fleet from the Cylons. A heroic end perhaps, but I still think the fleet would've been better off with two battlestars protecting it, instead of just one. But command decisions are often determined by personalities and egos. So, do brilliant commanders make brilliant decisions, or do brilliant decisions make the commanders...?
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The commentator Squid
posts on 1/15/2006 12:26:35 AM
You're right bang THANK GOD FEMA ISN'T IN CHARGE! I hate them as much as rand hates the new show, one day i'll get my property loss from Rita lol! And yes I'm a guy. And too be honest i also saw good come out of many people unfortuantley it was lopsided to the darker side,and yes I'm a guy. I think Adm. Cain was one of those hardline officers, good at her job to get admrial at her age "I've seen some young high ranks" But was probably one they didn't want to venture too far from quick comms. Take a look at The korean war, Gen. Mac Arthur wanted to roll up all the way to China, and Ge. Lemay wanted to nuke him the path. THEY BOTH THOUGHT IT TOO BE A GREAT IDEA AND NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY NOT TOO MANY OTHERS DID. Lemay tried it again during the Cuban Missile Crisis they put a tight leash around him! I think Cain is the same type of officer and her command is the ying to gallacticas yang, or the other way around? The darker but more command orianted side. "don't think i spell so well on the weekends. I was glad to see her go, who knows what her plan was for the other civie ships and galactica? But she did go down tough as nails.
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Johnny
posts on 1/14/2006 11:46:18 PM
There are alot of discussions about the cylons. It seems in the new series, they appear to have a much more faceted character role. Are they bad, for the most part yes, although some cylons appear to have their own agenda. Boomer when she turned off the cylon raiders, number 6 with her love of Baltar. Yes #6 is hot when she isn't beaten up and without her makeup. Kind of drab then.
Cain was a trooper to the end and even though she was ruthless I don't think she was insane.
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The commentator rand
posts on 1/14/2006 11:29:03 PM
bang, yes, i was being very sarcastic. everyone has been saying for months that number six was going to kill cain, i guess they were right. personally, i;m just glad to see one very disturbing character go. now, if we could only get them to kill off one character each episode. listen folks, i have to be honest here. i do not like the new show. i hate it just about as much as i've ever hated anything in my life. most of the characters i can stomach, adama i actually kind of like, but starb-tch is simply too much. i am no raging beauty, someone would be kind to call me plain, but katie sackoff is hideous. not only on the outside, but also on the inside. she just seems to ooze this substance that says hate me. maybe it's the b-tch gene. she can't act and has all the personality of a potato just dug out of the ground. i was also dissapointed about the battle with the cylons, that is the minute or so of it we actually got to see. i love posting here, even when a lot of what i say gets censored, but all the anger i have inside over the new series is really starting to get to me. i am a mega-obsessive compulsive. when i believe i'm right about something and someone else is wrong and won't listen to what i consider reason i go nuts. i know galactica was just a show, but it was one that i dearly loved, not only for the imaginative storyline, but also for its morals. to me, the new show is like watching a good kid you've always known and liked go bad. so please understand when i go off on one of my tangets. i just have very simple, very strong beliefs that obviously differ greatly from ron moore's. and guys, whoever's in charge, please don't erase this one.
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