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Why was the show canceled?
When one looks at the horrid Galactica 1980, which was really dumbed down for small children, it's obvious why it was canceled after only a handful of episodes. But the most basic question is what compelled the show's creators to so drastically change the original vision of their series after only one season.

The answer has to be that it strayed from it's main plotline--fighting, and fleeing, the Cylons. Every good Baltar/Cylon plotline had a bunch of awful ones--Apollo helps the family farm, little boy shoots the Lupus, etc--that weren't nearly as interesting to watch.

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       EMS Vocoder 5000 posts on 5/2/2007 7:27:23 AM

Yes, I do believe that both Boxey and Muffit are personally responsible for the cancellation of BSG:TOS, even if they disappeared after "Greetings From Earth".


       The commentator rand posts on 3/31/2006 11:13:54 PM

the fact that something is well and fondly remembered means that it was fit to survive. the proof of quality is the test of time. gino has yet to pass that test. take care.


       The commentator Ken Burke posts on 3/31/2006 10:35:45 PM

What was was. What is is. What will be will be.


       The commentator rand posts on 3/31/2006 10:22:58 PM

bang, saga of a starworld was also released as a movie in 70mm. i can not verify it, but i remember hearing that it actually outgrossed star wars in canada. as for me, i will never sit down and watch another episode of gino, i just can't torture myself like that again. in a lot of ways, gino reminds me of the blair witch projects. as you know, i hardly ever leave my house, so i never go to movies and have to wait until they come out on video or tv, but i remember everyone going ga ga over blair witch, "Oh, it's the most frightening movie I've ever seen!" and when i finally got around to seeing it, all i saw were these college student idiots lost in the woods and cursing every other word. as for gino, i see a bunch of college and middle aged idiots in space ships, lost among the stars and cursing every other word. we also get the nauseating shaking camera angles from blair witch. one thing i must admit was better this season was the addition of a musical score, of course it is nowhere near as majestic as stu phillips' classic music from the original series. all i can say is thank GOD for dr. who. take care.


       The commentator Bang Bang posts on 3/31/2006 3:28:12 AM

How's everyone been doing? It's been a while since I've been on here! Rand, I don't know about you, but I can remember how I felt back in 1979 when I first heard that Battlestar Galactica had been canceled--I couldn't believe it! I was stunned and depressed! I recall reading "Starlog" magazine, and they revealed that despite the cancellation, a new Galactica movie was going to be released to the theaters--alas, only to theaters overseas. This was "Mission Galactica," which combined the episodes "The Living Legend" and "Fire In Space" into a two-hour movie. Oh, how I wished that my family had taken a European vacation back then--I would've hunted down the closest theater showing the movie!! I later read in Starlog that Universal was also releasing the Galactica episodes to big-city markets in syndication, but only in two-hour telemovies. Since the neck of the woods where I lived wasn't considered a big city, I missed out once again. Some of the telemovies made sense, since Galactica had a few two-parters that were simply edited together into one movie (like "The Gun On Ice Planet Zero" and "War Of the Gods"). But some of the other telemovies were really stretching a bit to incorporate two different episodes into one movie. I read where one movie included the episodes "Murder On The Rising Star" and "The Young Lords." In the former episode, Starbuck is accused of murder and nearly flies off in his viper, until Apollo talks him out of it. In the telemovie, Starbuck actually takes off and ends up getting shot down by the Cylons, and "The Young Lords" begins. When Starbuck is rescued, Apollo's dubbed line says "We'd better get you back for your trial," or something like that. Maybe not the greatest editing in the world, and I understand that these telemovies have pretty much disappeared from the public eye, but I'd watch a bad Galactica movie any day. Have a good day, everyone.


       The commentator rand posts on 3/12/2006 9:45:13 PM

bbj, yes, b-5 is one of the best and most original series i've ever seen. unfortunately it just seems to have disappeared from the airwaves, even in reruns. there was a follow up series called crusade, but it only lasted one season. and there was a movie called "legend of the space rangers" but that was a couple of years ago, since then nothing. if you can find it on dvd it's worth grabbing. take care.


       Brokeback Jedi posts on 3/12/2006 9:23:17 PM

Believe it or not, I have only ever seen one Bab 5 episode...and it had Walter Koenig in it. I can't remember the plotline, or if the show was any good...but I can't find it on TV anywhere to find out for myself. Seems to me when Bab 5 was on, it was always late, late, late at night and I never truely knew when. Guess I need to go and get the DVDs, but I've always been scared it wouldn't be that good. It does have an impressive following though...I'm assuming you'd recommend it?


       The commentator rand posts on 3/12/2006 3:12:03 AM

bbj, the new vipers are one of the few things i do like about the new series. and no one ever believes me when i tell them this, but i swear to GOD it's true. when i wrote my very amateurish sci-fi novel about a gigantic starship-aircraft carrier set twenty thousand years in the future, i gave my fighters the same capibilities. i was inspired by the space shuttle with all its tiny thruster engines located around its body and the new f-22 raptor stealth-fighter with its variable thrust engines. ron moore might have seen the same science programs i did. as for the original vipers, i have seen a few in the landing bay, and a few of the scarlet class vipers designed for richard hatch's second coming trailer. about the new show's battle scenes, i admit they are better devised than the original show's, but they're always shot from such awkward angles and from such a distance that they're extremely confusing. and i miss all the neat laser volleys. i must respectfully say that the producers of babylon-5 still did it much better. take care.


       Brokeback Jedi posts on 3/12/2006 1:02:36 AM

You know, everyone's so serious around here. You gotta admit though, the space battles in the new series are pretty sweet. I love the way the ships stop and turn on a dime, total 360 degree rotation in a true 3D environment without atmospheric limitations. With that in mind, I prefer the design of the original Mark II vipers as opposed to the Mark VIIs introduced in the new BSG (or were there Mark VIIs in the original? I can't recall - time to get out the DVDs).


       The commentator Bang Bang posts on 3/7/2006 4:41:15 AM

I agree with the Phantom Stranger. A lot of people put down "The Lost Warrior" because of its obvious "stealing" of "Shane," but Battlestar Galactica was originally planned to be the new "Wagon Train" in space, with different situations contronting the Colonial fleet every week. I still like how the Cylon centurion--"Red Eye"--saw Apollo's gun and said "Uh Oh" in its synthesized robotic voice. I also liked how Apollo tried to explain to the young boy that force is only something to resort to when there are no other options left; there are no heroics, no bravery, just feeling scared and yet accomplishing what you have to do. And even though "The Magnificent Warriors" seems to be ranked as one of the worst episodes of the original Battlestar Galactica, I still love the opening sequence where the Agro Ships are destroyed by the Cylon attack, and watching Adama squirm uncomfortably around Siress Bellaby is a hoot. I really love it when Apollo says something to the effect of, "That was almost my mother," or something like that. Have a good day, everyone.


       Phantom Stranger posts on 3/7/2006 2:29:45 AM

I liked The Lost Warrior episode. I thought it was an affectionate tribute to the classic TV western. Another often maligned episode is The Magnificent Warriors. I enjoyed watching Lorne Green having the opportunity to add a comedic side to Adama's stern, fatherly character. Now Fire in Space, there was a poor episode. I believe the show's creator referrs to it as The Towering Inferno in Space. Love One Another.


       The commentator rand posts on 3/2/2006 9:26:18 PM

well said, bang. you might be the last reasonable man here because i am slowly losing control of my temper with the ginozombs. take care.


       The commentator Bang Bang posts on 3/2/2006 3:06:04 AM

For fans of the new series, let me try to explain as best I can why the fans of the original love the 1978 version so much. No, it's not because we're lost in the 70s, it's not because we love disco music, or bad haircuts, or we're adolescents who haven't grown up yet. I realize that a lot of GINO fans are young, so perhaps not all of you can see the bigger picture. How is a man or woman ultimately judged? By the company he or she keeps. If you hang around drug dealers, or thieves, or murderers, then what does that say about you? The original Battlestar Galactica appealed to us, and still does to this day, because of the strong sense of ideals and morals that were presented throughout the series. Perhaps some of the new show's fans don't realize this yet, but as you get older, your world begins to get smaller. Your mother dies, your father dies, your bother passes away, you can't see your son anymore because the mother moved away...these are all personal tragedies, and this is when friends and family really matter. This was really emphasized in the original Galactica. When there was nothing left, no hope left, the Colonials in the fleet could still turn to each other and find the strength to carry on. Quite simply, the fans of the orginal do not find these ideals in the new show, where everybody seems distrusting and mean towards each other. Perhaps, one day, the fans of the new show can watch the original series and possibly see some of the qualities I'm talking about. Hope, sticking together as family and friends, looking to the future, trying to do what is right, daring to dream...I ask you: are these such bad things...? Have a good day, everyone.


       The commentator rand posts on 3/1/2006 11:24:42 PM

not last night but the night before the gino zombies came knocking at my door. beware, they need our brains. they also kind of have this sixth sense about things, because they certainly don't have any sign of the first five. take care


       Galacticafan posts on 3/1/2006 11:16:11 PM

Yeah that would be just like a GOSO fan, to make an idle threat while hiding behind HIS screen. That's pretty pathetic dude. Keep watchin as your support can only help. Not that BSG needs your help.


       The commentator Porthos posts on 3/1/2006 11:11:25 PM

How fortunate you have your monitor to hide behind.


       Galacticafan posts on 3/1/2006 11:01:57 PM

And to think that after all that ranting and raving, you'll still be watching. Thanx for helping to keep the audience share up. Now let's see if there are any real zombie movies on. Like GOSO. Galactica One Series Only.


       The commentator rand posts on 3/1/2006 10:52:13 PM

ron moore, the god of critics and all other idiots, sits in his shabby office thinking up plotlines for his struggling third rate cable show called gino galactica in name only. "let's see, how can i keep the brain dead morons tuning in? think, moore, think. i know it's hard, but you've gotta. sex? yea, we've got several r-pe scenes this season. i think we'll add some b-astiality this year too. all right then, dysfunctional family situations,check. i have to make the zombies think everyone acts the way they do. t&a, of yea, lot's and lot's of that. the more s-x scenes the less dialouge i have to write. hmm, let's see what's on cnn. hey, a terrorist attack fifty one people dead, that's great. yea, i can use that. a hostage situation on msnbc, well we've done that almost every other episode, but fortunately our audience doesn't have a very long attention span, so yea, we'll do that again too. corrupt politicians on cspan? well, i doubt most of the zombies even know who the president is or how our electorial system works, but i can spice it up with a lot of back biting and fist fights, oh yea and pretty flashing lights, that'll keep them tuning in. bread and circuses, bread and circuses. and i just love the black market storyline, we'll go into that a lot more this year. of course the zombies have no idea that you have to have a source for all the items a black market steals and then sells and the fleet doesn't have any industry. thank god for our public school system. hey, days of our lives is on. john still hasn't discovered that martha's baby actually survived but was replaced with a dead baby by martha's twin sister who was also pregnant. okay, so we replace boomer's baby with a dead human baby and give the cylon baby to a human mother who lost her child. man, i am such a genius. yep, no one can sling the felgercarb like i can. i could sell condoms to the pope. oh, thank goodness for the zombies. all real galactica fans take care.


       johnny123 posts on 3/1/2006 7:24:01 PM

What I'd like to know is this...Is Boxey gay? Is he in love with one of the Viper pilots?


       Galacticafan posts on 3/1/2006 2:51:37 PM

This just in. A new plotline. Apollo meets his son Boxey. Boxey asks dad where they are going. Apollo replies, "Son, we are headed to a planet called Earth. But I have to warn you son, on this planet there is no war, corruption, greed, violence, sex, disease. It is like one whole world family down there and every family has the highest moral and ethical standards. Kinda scary heh? In other words son, Earth is an ideallic society. We might fit right in. But we will have to send Muffy out the airlock first. All robots turn into Cylons and we don't want Muffy to give away our galactic position. Then we are going to a place called Hollywood and make a one year series about our struggles in space." So Boxey then says, "Where's the closest airlock"?


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