Gate Angel
posts on 6/2/2009 4:50:44 PM
You guys are forgetting they did force the rebels to find a new base it took them minths to find hoth and the rebels now no longer had a strike base they also killed many rebels
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Dragead
posts on 4/12/2009 1:35:53 PM
in response to stabby, i'm pretty sure that they had the technology to allow space ships to travel in atmosphere. Remember in episode one and four? The Naboo fighters and the x-wings and y-wings were "Space fighters", yet they took off from the ground, in atmosphere.
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staby
posts on 7/24/2008 12:55:36 AM
starfighters cannot manover in an atmosphere, they where not designed for it, it would wreck the handling of the vehicle and destroy the atmosphere. starfighters where designed to work in the void of space. also, they needed something powerful like the All terrain armored transport to cut through the base's defenses, a motified luxory skiff like Jabba had would be blown to bits, remember how it was destoryed with one shot?
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Gabe
posts on 7/8/2008 2:58:31 PM
If you had read some of the books, you would know that AT-ATs actually move more in one step than a human could run in 5 minutes. They just look slow.
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whatever
posts on 4/18/2008 10:24:59 AM
on the planet the rebels did have a good defence the big walkers were the only vehicle that could survive unharmed(reletively) im sure vader just wanted to minamise his losses.
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Darth Frogger....
posts on 1/29/2008 11:15:25 PM
One thing we must remember if we decide to look at this from a battle and "realisctic" p.o.v. is that not all plans are perfect. Veers (and Vader) chose the ATAT's for all the points mentioned, and were hoping on luck that they would be fast enough to get the rebls by surprise. Remember Vader killed piett (i think it was him) for jumping out of light speed to early and giving the rebels time to organises.
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The commentator
posts on 7/27/2006 4:16:14 PM
they were not worried about the rebels running. you will remember that there were star destroyers in space waiting for them and a commander said "our first catch of the day" but their plan didn't work because of the ion cannon.
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The commentator
posts on 7/13/2006 6:22:12 PM
How were the legs maneuvered on the AT-AT? Were there levers in the cockpit that controlled the legs?
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rand
posts on 3/1/2006 11:21:07 PM
one thing i've always enjoyed about mr. lucas' star wars movies is that he has this wild imagination that makes it easy to suspend your disbelief and enjoy the ride. he also tells a good story. i think all the different vehicles and alien species only add to the fun, and that's what GOOD science fiction is all about. i also like the alien pop singer in the opening of jedi. what was her name, snookums, or something like that? take care.
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The commentator Bang Bang
posts on 3/1/2006 3:32:25 AM
DL77002 has a good point. Personally, when I first saw "The Empire Strikes Back," I never thought that George Lucas introduced the Imperial Walkers simply because they looked "cool." (Although they did!) Apparently, the shield generator could only protect a certain part of the planet, so the Walkers were landed at some distant location of Hoth--far away from the shield generator--and began their slow, cumbersome march towards the rebel base. I used to wonder what would have happened had the Hoth landscape been mountainous; obviously, the AT-ATs would've toppled over. But let's not forget, Darth Vader had a huge fleet of stardestroyers, and probably a large assortment of attack vehicles on board to choose from depending on the terrain. When he saw the surface of Hoth was relatively flat, he sent in the Walkers. The weaponry on the TIE Fighters would not have sufficed to take out the generator. We must remember that George Lucas had the double duty of presenting us with a fantastic battle that had some logic to it, but not one that simply repeated scenes from the first Star Wars. This, he did well. Mr. Lucas is responsible for sci-fi being what it is today, and I think we should defer to him and trust him on certain ideas that we might take issue with. Without him, the world would be a lonely place today. Have a good day, everyone.
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DL77002
posts on 3/1/2006 2:45:12 AM
2 good questions, both of which I do now know the answer to nor did I even bring them up in my complaint. What I was complaining about is those of you who claim Lucas chooses "pretty lights" over logic. Why did the rebels use snowspeeder instead of x-wings? Perhaps snowspeeders are easier to maneuver in tighter quarters? Perhaps snowspeeders are much smaller and are better for group ground asaults? Perhaps as I said, this is just cinema and Lucas wanted to introduce a new vehicle to offer something new to the arsenal for the viewers to enjoy. I do not know - but again, as far as the AT-ATs only being there because Lucas is big on effects, I very much disagree.
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rand
posts on 2/28/2006 11:22:32 PM
all i wanted to know was how did those big walkers get down to the planet to attack the rebel base, and why did the rebels have snow speeders that didn't like the cold when they had x-wings built to perform in the much colder void of space? i thought they were two perfectly good questions. take care.
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DL77002
posts on 2/27/2006 9:02:46 PM
This is almost dumber than the "how does Darth Vader eat" question. No, the AT-ATs are not retarded, but whoever said "lucas does not want you to think reason just enjoy the preety lights" certinaly is. Sure, 'Star Wars' is not 'Star Trek' but the pretty lights statement by commentrian is a point in the fight for pro-abortion. The AT-ATs moved slowly because of the amount of armor they were equipped with, you are forgetting that the rebel's blasters did not even penetrate these tanks; you seem to be forgetting that this is the rebel's base they were attacking, the place the rebels chose to set up their complicated and powerful air and ground defense weapons. Sending in the "fast moving hovercraft skiffs like those from Return of the Jedi" would not have done much good as the sensors would have picked it up and they would have blown it to pieces. Again, this is the rebel's BASE the empire planned on infiltrating, this could not have been a surprise attack as fast moving vehicles would not have done a thing. Why did you suggest TIE fighters? The AT-ATs were there to destroy the shield generator. SHIELD generator. They were not trying to destroy their cable tv, or pour salt on their front lawn, they were trying to destroy the shield generator which generally keeps things from entering the planet's atmosphere. Something else I guess you guys missed while watching the "pretty lights" is the science behind which vehicles are slow, which are fast, and why. The "hovercrafts from Return of the Jedi" and the TIE fighters were so incredibly fast because they had very minmal weaponry onboard to weigh things down. Any vehicle that could travel as quickly as the "pretty lights" you guys obviously want to see, would have traveled so quickly because of it's weak offensive and defensive systems. The shield generator was tough to destroy because it was heavily guarded and heavily shielded, not because the rebels hid it behind a bush. The AT-AT, while being slow; was incapable of being brought down by firpower, very capable of destroying the shield generator with it's on-board weaponry, and while giving the rebels plenty of time to escape, still brought the shield down long enough for Vader and his troops to get to the planet's surface. The most important thing you guys have to realize is that Lucas creates cinema. Cin-e-ma. Accusing Lucas of wanting you to "just enjoy the pretty lights and not use logic" is a ridiculous statement, as half of his job requirement as a science-fiction movie maker is making pretty lights for you to watch in the first place. The logic was written way before the light bulbs were screwed in, so please screw in yours.
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commentrian
posts on 2/19/2006 1:38:54 AM
friends friends ..lucas does not want you to think reason just enjoy the preety lights ...
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rand
posts on 2/19/2006 12:50:03 AM
i have a few questions about the empired strikes back that darth frogger brought to mind with his question about the snow speeders. if the empire attacked hoth from space, how did all the giagantic walkers get on the planet's surface. and did the empire send tie fighters against the snow speeders? it's been years since i've watched empire so my memory is a little vague. but if it did, how could fighters designed to function in the coldness of space freeze up in hoth's much warmer atmosphere. and why did the rebels bother with snow speeders that needed to be adjusted to work in the cold when they had xwings fighters also designed to function in deep space temperatures? take care.
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aliciaskywalker
posts on 2/18/2006 12:47:40 PM
Read Rogue Squadron, people. The AT ATS were very effective. They WON, didn't they? My goodness.
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Darth Frogger Of Australia (Aussie Aussie Aussie!)
posts on 2/16/2006 7:01:44 PM
Why look at it in reality? it spoils the fun!
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darth taiter
posts on 2/16/2006 6:23:52 PM
the empire sent in the painfully slow and retarded AT-AT's to give the heroes time to escape.If they had sent in fighters to knock out the sheilds then blasted the base from orbit killing everyone, then that would have been the end of a very profitable venture for mr Lucas....wouldn't it.
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Darth Frogger Of Australia (Aussie Aussie Aussie!)
posts on 2/16/2006 6:21:27 AM
Didnt the Rebles have to ajust the Snowspeeders for the cold? So the empier sends in fighters, they frieeze over rendering them useless!
(Exuse the spelling)
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Wookimonsta
posts on 2/12/2006 10:18:32 AM
The thing is that ATAT's chin guns are very powerful, and faster tanks would not have the kind of firepower to destroy the shield generator, let alone the lack of armor that allowed ATATs advance to easily through the rebel lines of defense.
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