The commentator Porthos, the voice of reality
posts on 11/15/2006 3:41:36 PM
I think it was just part of Berman and Braga trying to be "hip and cool", regardless if it made sense. Intially they were going out of their way to distinguish the show from the franchise. They started by simply calling the show "Enterprise" which probably why the refer to the ship without "THE". "Star Trek" didnt get added to the title untill they started noticing the ratings slip in the second season.
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The socially inept redwarrior
posts on 11/15/2006 2:53:38 PM
i never understood that one either. guess we will never know now since Gene is gone.but hopefully Star-trek will continue on in movies and series of his dreams and the worlds he created to expand our imagination.
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The commentator Rand : Licensed Eccentric
posts on 11/12/2006 9:59:08 PM
I think most of the problem lays in how it sounds more than the writers worrying about proper military terminology. On the original Trek, Kirk always said "Kirk to Enterprise," when contacting the ship, but in discussions he usually called it the Enterprise. In my so-called sci-fi novels, because of the ship's name, I can't call it the whatever it's name is. It just doesn't sound right to but a the before it. That's my worthless two cents anyhow. Take Care.
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jon
posts on 11/8/2006 6:10:19 PM
u dont hear janeway saying lets get back to 'the' voyager, its not bad english that they dont say 'the' you never heard kirk say over his com "kirk to the enterprise" he said "kirk to enterprise"
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The commentator Bang Bang
posts on 11/8/2006 2:04:57 AM
I must agree with Tony Christy. Besides the fact that crewmembers aboard the vessel would've thought of the ship as a "her" or maybe a "him", but never a "the" (does that make any sense?), even history books omit the word "the" when referring to ships that took place in war. In works regarding Midway, a reader frequently finds, "Yorktown began listing...", "Enterprise's planes found the Japanese fleet first," "Hornet took two bombs to starboard," and so on. Jeez, admins, aren't there more important things to worry about?? Have a good one, everyone.
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The commentator Tony Christy
posts on 11/8/2006 12:36:30 AM
having been a Sailor for over 23 years and being well placed to know about these things... Sailors think of their vessels as a living and breathing entity. The crew of any vessel then call their ship by her name and omit the word "THE" otherwise, if they didn't, it would be like me calling my mum "The Elizabeth" or me calling my Brother"The Harry"... ie "Im just going to see the Martin to see if I he want's to go for a pint"! The vessel has a name of her own.. not just like a utensil like a mop or a bucket.
Hope this helps. Any discussion on this, please fell free to email.
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The commentator Porthos, Proud American
posts on 11/7/2006 8:41:17 PM
It was't called THE Enterprise because it wasn't THE Enterprise. Not a real one anyway. Face it, the fact of the matter is the NX-01 was fabricated because of one reason: to cash in on the success of the STAR WARS PREQUELS. It was a badly disguised 24th Century ship called the AKIRA forced into a time period where such a ship and its Captain have never been hinted at as existing in over 35 years of Trek history. It has almost all the comforts of the 24th Century save for replicators, tractor beams and holodecks. It's sleeker and more higher tech looking than ships a century later. Berman and Braga dont CARE about if the NX-01 makes sense or not on any level. They just yanked this ship and show out of their hinders thinking people wouldnt be smart enough to notice. Unfortunately, we were. The NX-01 shouldnt be called "Enterprise" or even "The Enterprise" in the first place
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The commentator ♠ §pÅÐ.ê ♠
posts on 11/7/2006 7:04:28 PM
Say you name your van "the shaggin wagon" you would say I MUST REUTRN TO THE SHAGGIN WAGON. You name your ship Blue Nose. RUN TO BLUE NOSE. thats my arguement with as lil sense as possible
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Soylent Yellow is MM Good
posts on 6/15/2005 9:53:27 PM
During wargames in the early 25th century using untested weapons a rift is created that pulls 12 starships into the mirror universe-rift closes. The ships break up into 3 groups. Group 1 decides to focus efforts on getting back to their universe. Group 2 decides they cant go home and should overthrow the Empire and transform it into something like the Federation. Group 3 decides to strike out on their own and search for an uninhabited planet and avoid contact with Mirror universe inhabitants. Fresh angle in an unexplored universe.
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The commentator jodilynn22748
posts on 5/13/2005 11:15:44 PM
It's also true that Grand Canyon does not have a The in front of it, even thought most people add it.
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The commentator John
posts on 5/13/2005 10:35:39 PM
I have always used the vernacular "I've got to get home". The home never seemed quite right.
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The socially inept redwarrior
posts on 5/12/2005 4:01:29 PM
this is only a frame of speak and we all have our own way of using the english language or any language for that matter.i just wish that sci-fi would pick of the series as they have on others.thats why i am such a sci-channel fan as they know what we the viewers like.
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The commentator F Master
posts on 5/12/2005 2:44:23 AM
The reason the "the" is not used in front of Enterprise is PROBABLY the same reason I got reamed out at work when I was drafting a memo to our NAVY customer... the NAVY has the things called ships - the names of these ships are C O N S I D E R E D proper nouns - and you don't put a THE in front a proper noun - unless of course you are "The Donald" ;) So you don't refer to Sally as "The Sally" or Fred as "The Fred" do YOU? know.... it doesn't matter what the original series did if they put "the" in front of their ship's name - the US NAVY will go crazy if you try to pull that sh*t on them in conversation or in correspondence - F Master
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The socially inept redwarrior
posts on 4/16/2005 12:30:04 AM
is this person by any chance English? as i know that they dont use "the "as we Americans do.
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The commentator Cammie
posts on 4/15/2005 4:48:40 PM
I never understood myself why the characters of "Enterprise" didn't refer to the ship as "the Enterprise" instead of "Enterprise". I also thought that it was a little strange. I wonder if this was something that B&B started or if that is a way a ship is referred to in the military...does anyone know?
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The commentator Tony Christy
posts on 4/15/2005 4:12:35 PM
It's because people who serve aboard ships come to realise that the ship is more than just a big machine.. the ship is so complex in general with different systems, likes and dislikes etc that the ship is more like a person.. so if you had a friend called Paul, you wouldn't say "here comes the Paul".. the ship is treated as a person.. not a thing...
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